Pt. to Pt. CHANGED TO Rk. to Rk.

[mparks22]

Land disputes have forced Whiplash to change the course for the last race of the year.
Jay is in Mexico maping the new course now. It is rumored to be 138 miles. JK. It will be only 120 miles.

"The trouble with being a good sport is you have to lose to prove it"

Mike Parks Whiplash#22
2002 whiplash 250cc Champion
03 WR450,FMF,Hinson,BRP,Applied,RealRacing,ThePit,Exc ell,IMS,Speedway,Vic's Plumbing,WD40,Wiseco,
00 YZ250, Loaded
00 Trail Boss

[mparks22]

Whiplash said a map will be available a week before the race.

"The trouble with being a good sport is you have to lose to prove it"

Mike Parks Whiplash#22
2002 whiplash 250cc Champion
03 WR450,FMF,Hinson,BRP,Applied,RealRacing,ThePit,Exc ell,IMS,Speedway,Vic's Plumbing,WD40,Wiseco,
00 YZ250, Loaded
00 Trail Boss

[duneDS650]

Oh man...I REALLY wanted to do Point-to-Point. It would have been my first one. I helped pit last year and it looked like a fun race.

Damn it!

DS650 Whiplash #281 ATV (me)
400EX Whiplash #388 ATV (son)

[Dezrcr]

WHAT??????????? I have a hard time believing that. That a bummer:(

Ben Hutchinson
Whiplash #32
BITD #330

Sponsors to thank:
Pit crew,Tucson Steel Dor, MotoWorks,MKB Construction, IMS Products, Sprocket Specalists, Maxxis, Big Gun Exhuast systems, Cycle Gear, Tag/One Industries, Doggone Graphix and Z Moto.

[Lizrdlipz]

That is really bad news... :( [V] One of the best parts of P to P is the first 25+ miles. What a bummer! Now, for the part about the map being available a week before the race... Don't get your hopes up. They tell us every year that we'll get maps the week prior to the race. When in fact, the only years this happened was 1999 and earlier. It goes like this...(hope they prove me wrong this time)
You get there the day before the race and you have to set up your pits and logistics the night before the race and if you arrive in the evening you really have to scramble to get set up. Sound familiar??? The course will invariably change the day before the race anyway and the maps may be obsolete. Sorry for the negativity but I've seen this same scenario year after year. No matter how this unfolds, Mexico is waaayyy cool and a great time. See you all there!

Steve Feld #31

[Zhvonte]

where does rock to rock goes if point to point is bordor to rockypoint??

I have no limitations, only my quad has limitations......
PCP-Z400
whiplash #374

[duneDS650]

Rock-to-Rock starts at the Oasis RV Park and ends at the Oasis RV Park.

Hopefully, Jay lays out a new course.

DS650 Whiplash #281 ATV (me)
400EX Whiplash #388 ATV (son)

[Racerfisk]

Mr. Feld as one in the know about such things as Mexico race mileage please help my aging brain remember what last May Rock to Rock was. Starting those pit logistics early - most of won't do 130 miles or 120 miles on one pit [V]. I'm wondering if they will run the same way (backwards) as May race [?] I'm with you though, a weekend in Mexico off road racing and sipping Hurricanes on the beach ' It's ALL GOOD :D. I know I'm losing it though because I'm "almost" looking forward to the WHOOP DEE DOO ROAD [:p]
Just a note for all you Racers that Fistfull # 624 went under the knife last Friday to surgically repair that damaged shoulder from Snowflake crash. He tryed to race Searchlight & Vulture and found out there was more damage than they thought. Anyway He's doing good & should be typing away soon BUT not riding for [?] :(

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[Dezrcr]

quote:Originally posted by Zhvonte

where does rock to rock goes if point to point is bordor to rockypoint??


Rocky Point to Rocky Point;).

Ben Hutchinson
Whiplash #32
BITD #330

Sponsors to thank:
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[Dezrcr]

quote:Originally posted by Racerfisk

Mr. Feld as one in the know about such things as Mexico race mileage please help my aging brain remember what last May Rock to Rock was. Starting those pit logistics early - most of won't do 130 miles or 120 miles on one pit [V]. I'm wondering if they will run the same way (backwards) as May race [?] I'm with you though, a weekend in Mexico off road racing and sipping Hurricanes on the beach ' It's ALL GOOD :D. I know I'm losing it though because I'm "almost" looking forward to the WHOOP DEE DOO ROAD [:p]
Just a note for all you Racers that Fistfull # 624 went under the knife last Friday to surgically repair that damaged shoulder from Snowflake crash. He tryed to race Searchlight & Vulture and found out there was more damage than they thought. Anyway He's doing good & should be typing away soon BUT not riding for [?] :(



May's race was 85 miles, and only one stop at La Pinta beach for most. You should be able to make it on 2 stops with that new desert tank:D. Once the map gets out we will be able to tell though. Hopfully it works out to be every 50 miles in between stops.[:0]

Ben Hutchinson
Whiplash #32
BITD #330

Sponsors to thank:
Pit crew,Tucson Steel Dor, MotoWorks,MKB Construction, IMS Products, Sprocket Specalists, Maxxis, Big Gun Exhuast systems, Cycle Gear, Tag/One Industries, Doggone Graphix and Z Moto.

[Hoonson]

I heard it's been bumped to a 200 mile race on a 1 mile course now. 200 laps of sandy whoops around the Oasis! The catch is, you have to stop every 10 laps and chug a tecate. The last racer with clean underwear wins! [:p]

Jeff Henson
Whiplash #21

[desertsandrider]

SWEET

Nick

2001 400ex
1996 Lifted GMC 1/2 Ton Truck
2003 Trail Boss 6X12 enclosed trailer
Whiplash # 156
"Nut Buster Racing"
Sponsors: Got Huevos?, Blo ME, Liberty Motorsports

[mparks22]

Sad but true.:( Whiplash said unless Jay and tecate can twist some arms we are going Oasis around the mountain and back to the Oasis.
I like Jeffs idea thou. Do a shot then 10 donuts on the beach, Repeat.:D
I heard whiplash used to meet you at the finish with a beer for everyone who finished? I must have missed that race.[|)]
I will be ready to party, i mean race!!

"The trouble with being a good sport is you have to lose to prove it"

Mike Parks Whiplash#22
2002 whiplash 250cc Champion
03 WR450,FMF,Hinson,BRP,Applied,RealRacing,ThePit,Exc ell,IMS,Speedway,Vic's Plumbing,WD40,Wiseco,
00 YZ250, Loaded
00 Trail Boss

[Lizrdlipz]

Thanks Ben,
I too needed a reminder as to the distance of the last Rock / Rock race. Yes, 85 miles was the count I remember. I did only one pit at La Pinta beach.
Mr. Parks, remember to slow down for that sandy double up at the beginning of Gopher Hole Alley! We went up for some serious air time over that particular obstacle... I know I came close to eating $@#t on the landing. How 'bout you???
Everyone needs to remember that the courses are stated to be longer than they actually are. I think this helps to keep some people from running out of gas by encouraging more stops. (even though every year people still run out).
I do remember the P to P in '99'. It was my first race in 16 years and finished in the top 10. That's where I met Mark O (Great Guy). Tecate and Coke were at the finish line with the beds of trucks filled with soda and beer for all of the finishers and there was someone from a resort passing hats to the top 10 finishers. I didn't know anyone there but made plenty of friends by the end of the evening. JJ's was ccccoooooolllllddd and windy that night. As it probably will be this year too. Bring a jacket and something warm to sit on or next to.

Steve Feld #31

[El Gato]

quote:Originally posted by Lizrdlipz

Mr. Parks, remember to slow down for that sandy double up at the beginning of Gopher Hole Alley! We went up for some serious air time over that particular obstacle... I know I came close to eating $@#t on the landing. How 'bout you???

From the stories I've heard I do believe that is the same area that got Jim Chapman. I know I had a pretty seriuos pucker going on through there. It wasn't the first mound that got me it was the second one. I rode the front wheel for about 50 feet before the rear decided to drop, and then I went another 50 feet before I opened my eyes back up. I was following right behind TJ and he did the smart thing and slowed a little and went through there like it was a walk in the park so I thought I could make up some time on him while he was being conservative. BUT he got a pretty big lead built back up on me as I was meandering through the sand trying to regain control. That old dude is pretty smart that way.;)
quote:
I do remember the P to P in '99'. It was my first race in 16 years and finished in the top 10. That's where I met Mark O (Great Guy). Tecate and Coke were at the finish line with the beds of trucks filled with soda and beer for all of the finishers and there was someone from a resort passing hats to the top 10 finishers.
I'm pretty sure I did that race, but I never got any free beer!!!!! Missed the boat on that one. I do remember getting a hat at one of those races though.

David Gronlund #7
Bens Cycle Works, Motoworks Suspension, Goat Eyewear, Cycle Gear, FMF-909, Works Connection, IMS Racing, N-Style Graphics, AFAM, White Brothers, Pops Racing, Cycles West.

[mparks22]

Oh yea, I remember. That whoop double, double triple thing in blinding white sand has scared me a few times.
I have a map around here somewhere from the last r to r If i can find it i will scan and post. They usually only make suttle changes and run it backwards now and then. I hope they run the section next to the highway. It is 8 miles of great video if you can get someone to chase ya in a car.
In 2000 my wife rode in the car. Until then she thought we maybe did 50mph. Its funny on the video, The driver says "wow, we are doing 90mph. All you hear is WHAT!! How fast!!" Since then(and parker 01) she hates me racing.
The good news is she realizes now that doing 100 on the freeway in a car aint s**t.[}:)]

"The trouble with being a good sport is you have to lose to prove it"

Mike Parks Whiplash#22
2002 whiplash 250cc Champion
03 WR450,FMF,Hinson,BRP,Applied,RealRacing,ThePit,Exc ell,IMS,Speedway,Vic's Plumbing,WD40,Wiseco,
00 YZ250, Loaded
00 Trail Boss

[El Gato]

T.J's happy about the change. PtoP has been his achles heel. He's raced it a hand full of times and has only finished it once, and that was with a front flat for 90 of the 100 miles.

David Gronlund #7
Bens Cycle Works, Motoworks Suspension, Goat Eyewear, Cycle Gear, FMF-909, Works Connection, IMS Racing, N-Style Graphics, AFAM, White Brothers, Pops Racing, Cycles West.

[Popsracing]

yes...i've finished that dawm race 2 out of 7 tries..1st time i finished on a carreer ending broken wrist that required 2-surgeries...2nd time on 90 mile front flat and then 5-mechanical dnfs....anyways as i've matured we'll say over the years..its just seems alot easier to go down and get settled in rocky pt. whether its camping or hoteling and tear it up from the oasis... i do agree that 1st 20-25 miles of the pt. to pt. is good stuff..but i do remember..somebody help me here..i think it was 00' or 01' that the rock to rock went all the way up to the "industrial park" and back down through the mtns. which i thought was pretty long halfway challenging course like the ol' pt. to pt....maybe jay will do somethin' like that.[?] quote:Originally posted by El Gato

T.J's happy about the change. PtoP has been his achles heel. He's raced it a hand full of times and has only finished it once, and that was with a front flat for 90 of the 100 miles.

David Gronlund #7
Bens Cycle Works, Motoworks Suspension, Goat Eyewear, Cycle Gear, FMF-909, Works Connection, IMS Racing, N-Style Graphics, AFAM, White Brothers, Pops Racing, Cycles West.


Todd Johnson,
2001 and 2002 Az state Champion, Open Pro
Sponsors, Pops Racing, Big Gun exhaust systems, Devol, Goat Eyewear, and the fastest guy on earth - David Gronlund

[desertsandrider]

Yippie!! my new rear wheels and tires came in today...hopefully i can make it through the entire race without a flat this time!! I went with the itp t-9 pro series beadlocks with inner reinforcement rings 9x9, and kenda klaw tires 22x11x9. they look beefy. i went with the good rims that should last for years, and mediocre priced tires.

"Disco" Nick

400ex
1996 Lifted GMC 1/2 Ton Truck
2003 Trail Boss 6X12 enclosed trailer
Whiplash # 156
"Nut Buster Racing"
Sponsors: Got Huevos?, Blo ME, Liberty Motorsports, Weller Racing

[Racerfisk]

Yea, Popsracing has been on the side of the trail a few times in Mexico. You know I always waved at you TJ and let the next check point know where you were. Good luck in Baja. I'm surprised to hear you and El-Gato are doing the Whiplash race after the expense of racing the Baja 1000. Is the new job paying off [?]

Racing is Living
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MP Environmental Services
Jan's Checking Account

[El Gato]

T.J., The last super long PtoP race was in 98'and it was a team race. 180 miles of whoops as I recall. That would be super cool this year.
Fisk, you're right we may not make it down for the PtoP race after getting our bank accounts milked by the Baja-1000, but then again you never know. I've done crazier things. In the 2001 PtoP race me and Raper slept in the back of my truck in Sonoyta and left to come home right after the finish saturday. We ate nothing but tacos and chips. That sure was tough loading up and driving home as every one else was gearing up to go partying all night.

Any good samaritans out there with room for a couple sleeping bags on their camp trailer floor?????

David Gronlund #7
Bens Cycle Works, Motoworks Suspension, Goat Eyewear, Cycle Gear, FMF-909, Works Connection, IMS Racing, N-Style Graphics, AFAM, White Brothers, Pops Racing, Cycles West.

[Racerfisk]

Were @ Playa Elegante RV Park & have extra tents & floor pads. They have showers for .25 cents :D

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MP Environmental Services
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[Dbag]

It doesn't really matter to me where we start or finish in Mexico as long as they still have plenty of Beer and beach to enjoy!!!

#110 Dbag
I Practice like a Pro
Race like a beginner!

[Dezrcr]

quote:Originally posted by Dbag

It doesn't really matter to me where we start or finish in Mexico as long as they still have plenty of Beer and beach to enjoy!!!



What about the Tequila? You ready?:D

Ben Hutchinson
Whiplash #32
BITD #330

Sponsors to thank:
Pit crew,Tucson Steel Dor, MotoWorks,MKB Construction, IMS Products, Sprocket Specalists, Maxxis, Big Gun Exhuast systems, Cycle Gear, Tag/One Industries, Doggone Graphix and Z Moto.

[Popsracing]

THIS IS WHAT I MEANT TO SAY!![8D]quote:Originally posted by Dbag

It doesn't really matter to me where we start or finish in Mexico as long as they still have plenty of Beer and beach to enjoy!!!

#110 Dbag
I Practice like a Pro
Race like a beginner!


Todd Johnson,
2001 and 2002 Az state Champion, Open Pro
Sponsors, Pops Racing, Big Gun exhaust systems, Devol, Goat Eyewear, and the fastest guy on earth - David Gronlund

[desertsandrider]

ok atv guys.............if wickenburg knocked your skid plate into pieces like it did mine......hook up an new PRM swingarm plate.....I got mine in today, and it is the new .250 thickness......it is insane tough......but heavy!!

"Disco" Nick

400ex
1996 Lifted GMC 1/2 Ton Truck
2003 Trail Boss 6X12 enclosed trailer
Whiplash # 156
"Nut Buster Racing"
Sponsors: Got Huevos?, Blo ME, Liberty Motorsports, Weller Racing

[Racerfisk]

Hey # 32 - Your Uncle is going to the Dunes with my niece and her family on Turkey Day. SMALL WORLD - They have been freinds for years :D Won't be able to see you guys there, have to work in Kingman Thursday & Friday this week. C ya in Mexico [:p] 747

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MP Environmental Services
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[Dezrcr]

quote:Originally posted by Racerfisk

Hey # 32 - Your Uncle is going to the Dunes with my niece and her family on Turkey Day. SMALL WORLD - They have been freinds for years :D Won't be able to see you guys there, have to work in Kingman Thursday & Friday this week. C ya in Mexico [:p] 747




Which uncle is that? Where are they going? That is very weird!

Ben Hutchinson
Whiplash #32
BITD #330

Sponsors to thank:
Pit crew,Tucson Steel Dor, MotoWorks,MKB Construction, IMS Products, Sprocket Specalists, Maxxis, Big Gun Exhuast systems, Cycle Gear, Tag/One Industries, Doggone Graphix and Z Moto.

[Racerfisk]

Uncle J. Johnson is good pal with Shawn & Michelle B. (Michelle is my niece & that's who I was going to Glamis with) They are still going to Gordons Well [:0]

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[Dezrcr]

quote:Originally posted by Racerfisk

Uncle J. Johnson is good pal with Shawn & Michelle B. (Michelle is my niece & that's who I was going to Glamis with) They are still going to Gordons Well [:0]



That's crazy![:0]

Ben Hutchinson
Whiplash #32
BITD #330

Sponsors to thank:
Pit crew,Tucson Steel Dor, MotoWorks,MKB Construction, IMS Products, Sprocket Specalists, Maxxis, Big Gun Exhuast systems, Cycle Gear, Tag/One Industries, Doggone Graphix and Z Moto.

[Racerfisk]

Yea, I really believe in the "Small World" I just hired a new man at work and afterwards found out he is good buds with my brother-in-law. Shawn & Michelle are going to Mexico race with us. Let's hook up & I will introduce you guys. Also keeping it in the Racing family - I hired Dayton & he works here full time now. Mitch (Searchlight) is trying to go also. [:0]

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[Dezrcr]

quote:Originally posted by Racerfisk

Yea, I really believe in the "Small World" I just hired a new man at work and afterwards found out he is good buds with my brother-in-law. Shawn & Michelle are going to Mexico race with us. Let's hook up & I will introduce you guys. Also keeping it in the Racing family - I hired Dayton & he works here full time now. Mitch (Searchlight) is trying to go also. [:0]


Where I work right now, there was a fellow employee that I became friends with, and go riding together when we can. It turns out back in 85' he raced the Baja 1000 with a friend of my dads, and my dad was there to pit him.[:0] Soon or later a fellow motorcycle racer knows someone you know, that is cool part about this sport.

Ben Hutchinson
Whiplash #32
BITD #330

Sponsors to thank:
Pit crew,Tucson Steel Dor, MotoWorks,MKB Construction, IMS Products, Sprocket Specalists, Maxxis, Big Gun Exhuast systems, Cycle Gear, Tag/One Industries, Doggone Graphix and Z Moto.

[El Gato]

quote:Originally posted by Racerfisk

I hired Dayton & he works here full time now.
?????????

David Gronlund #7
Bens Cycle Works, Motoworks Suspension, Goat Eyewear, Cycle Gear, FMF-909, Works Connection, IMS Racing, N-Style Graphics, AFAM, White Brothers, Pops Racing, Cycles West.

[Dezrcr]

David, did you grow a money tree over the long weekend, so you can go to Mexico?

Ben Hutchinson
Whiplash #32
BITD #330

Sponsors to thank:
Pit crew,Tucson Steel Dor, MotoWorks,MKB Construction, IMS Products, Sprocket Specalists, Maxxis, Big Gun Exhuast systems, Cycle Gear, Tag/One Industries, Doggone Graphix and Z Moto.

[El Gato]

quote:Originally posted by Dezrcr

David, did you grow a money tree over the long weekend, so you can go to Mexico?

NO!!! I actually put the finishing touches on my front wheel pre-running the Baja-1000. You can almost see the tube through the "taco" shaped front rim, and it has a hard time spinning between the fork legs. I actually started pulling the bike apart and going through it all in preperation for next year. I have a pretty big christmas list. Both forks and the shock are leaking, I need rims, an exhaust system, brake pads, plastic, clutch, etc.... The engine is in good shape but I need to go through everything else especially the bushings and bearings in the suspension components.

I've raced this race a hundred times and I'm not in the points anymore since I missed so many this year. I can't justify the cost this month.

David Gronlund #7
Bens Cycle Works, Motoworks Suspension, Goat Eyewear, Cycle Gear, FMF-909, Works Connection, IMS Racing, N-Style Graphics, AFAM, White Brothers, Pops Racing, Cycles West.

[desertsandrider]

Less than a week to go.........I have to race in this one, after missing so many races and still being so close in points.....Stacy is wussing out and just doing my pits. We'll be coming down on Friday afternoon, crossing the border no later than 2pm, and taking off as soon as I finish and get loaded up on Saturday afternoon. We'll see everyone down there on Friday!

"Disco" Nick

400ex
1996 Lifted GMC 1/2 Ton Truck
2003 Trail Boss 6X12 enclosed trailer
Whiplash # 156
"Nut Buster Racing"
Sponsors: Got Huevos?, Blo ME, Liberty Motorsports, Weller Racing

[Lizrdlipz]

I'm sorry to say, I won't be racing this weekend. :(
Some other issues came up at the last minute. [8]
Good luck and ride smart! :)


Steve Feld #31