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How many on the site are going to run the actual Snowflake race end of Aug begining of Sept? Depending on how the pre-run goes, I may sneak in and sandbag the 900 class <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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"You sure are fast, you where flyin' when I passed you"
After reading the slam the owner of Whiplash wrote about Arizona Trail Riders that only had half truths in it I would never ride a Whiplash race!
2002 Black EXC 400 (Me)
2002 300 EX (SlowToGo)
2001 XR 80 (BrattyBoy)
1998 Polaris 400 Sport(For Sale)
1998 SX 125 (Crazyguy)
1996 DS 80 (Kyle)
Are we going to talk or are we going to ride????
Where was that slam Mark? I would like to read that.
Inquiring Minds Want to Know <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
AzJose (azjose@dirttrails.com)
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'86 ZG1000A1 (http://www.ctcs.com/joseph/images/zg1000a1.jpg)
Chandler, AZ
'only hurts when I stop riding'
neWRiver
06/18/02, 10:31 AM
Well, I certainly can echo the concerns about that organization's treatment of a fellow racing organization in their publication.
However, I (as a member of Arizona Trail Riders) personally feel that it is important that fences be mended. There is way too much politics and adversity facing our sport already. Putting on succesful events requires a lot of hard work and jumping over hurdles. We can't afford not to work together as organizations when others outside our sport are working to put us out of business altogether.
Kevin
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Paul400EX
06/18/02, 1:09 PM
lol big_kaw_huna, you wouldn't even have to try and win any class with that cannondale, all you'd have to do is kind of casually put along <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Wild Skinz Shockcovers, Crossbar pad
MotionPro Twist Throttle
DG Krome Lite Nerf Bars
Soon: Armadillo swingarm skid, DG chassis skid. Paddle Tires.
Real Men Shift Gears
Dude, I feel so much like a fish outta water on that bike <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
I was refering to crushing the 900 class with the Big Kaw.
lol big_kaw_huna, you wouldn't even have to try and win any class with that cannondale, all you'd have to do is kind of casually put along <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
2002 Yellow 400EX
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Wild Skinz Shockcovers, Crossbar pad
MotionPro Twist Throttle
DG Krome Lite Nerf Bars
Soon: Armadillo swingarm skid, DG chassis skid. Paddle Tires.
Real Men Shift Gears
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"You sure are fast, you where flyin' when I passed you"
jkcmotox
06/18/02, 11:33 PM
That's right Kaw hun a! Two wheels while racing my brotha'!
Can't wait for the weekend.
Jkc
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I was refering to crushing the 900 class with the Big Kaw.
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"If God would have meant for me to ride it, he would have given it tits or footpegs".
I bought the quad so i wouldn't spill my beer <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Oops, gonna get the site riled up again !!
That's right Kaw hun a! Two wheels while racing my brotha'!
Can't wait for the weekend.
Jkc
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I was refering to crushing the 900 class with the Big Kaw.
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"If God would have meant for me to ride it, he would have given it tits or footpegs".
When I got injured, #107, 2 years later I'm ready to be sand-baggin' in the 900's. I can't wait...
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jkcmotox
06/18/02, 11:57 PM
EXCmark,
Actually I hear Jay published something in the effect of an apology due to that fact that the trash his people hauled off that weekend was supposed to have been picked up by someone AZ trailriders contracted with or something like that. I also know that one of his gripes is the way the BLM, Forest service, etc. sees and deals with his group differently. Partly, I am sure due to the fact that he puts alot of people, like 10,000 or so (including non-racing participants) at Snowflake for instance, onto the same land that other groups put maybe a few hundred.
I understand that there is always some politics in racing and ALWAYS between different orgizations and those that race them but to not particpate in any race (and this one in partilar, one of the biggest races in the S/W) is a pretty big personal sacrifice man! That organization is FULL of great people and full of great racers that are no different than any other riders. I hope you don't see this as me defending Jay's comments or actions, I just thought I would lend my perspective. If you do decide to race you are welcome to pit with me in return for introducing me to some AZR events.
I think NEWRIVER has a very good outlook on what is important to focus on. We have plenty of outside groups looking to do damage to our sport and limit our ability to enjoy what we live for without us dismantling it from the inside.
Jkc
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"If God would have meant for me to ride it, he would have given it tits or footpegs".
I just sent an E-mail to Whiplash. I haven't heard anything about the race in Prescott.
They scheduled it for June-21,22.
I very seriuosly doubt it because of the fire dangers, but it be nice to have some kind of info posted on their web site.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
..... I may sneak in and sandbag the 900 class <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>.....
They may not let you ride anything but the 900 class.
A Pro rider came down from California not to long ago (Snowflake last year), and he had to fight not to ride the 900 class.
The 900 class by the way is the "first time racers" class. It usually has a very big turnout.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
I know what it is, and I allready know thats where I'm gonna be. Before I got hurt and I was a decent racer. Thats why I call it sand baggin'
..... I may sneak in and sandbag the 900 class <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>.....
They may not let you ride anything but the 900 class.
A Pro rider came down from California not to long ago (Snowflake last year), and he had to fight not to ride the 900 class.
The 900 class by the way is the "first time racers" class. It usually has a very big turnout.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
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"You sure are fast, you where flyin' when I passed you"
One word of advise
PREREGISTER!!!!
At Snowflake last year there were over a hundred first time racers.
You do not want to be in the back of that pack.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
The first time racers race in the same race as the Pros <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>!!!
I'll be half way around the course before you even get the green flag, so watch out!
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
I allready got that covered, that when I went on my Whiplash rant about money. The last time I entered a Whiplash event the cost was $65 and now its gone up to $75 and $100
One word of advise
PREREGISTER!!!!
At Snowflake last year there were over a hundred first time racers.
You do not want to be in the back of that pack.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
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"You sure are fast, you where flyin' when I passed you"
It may have been a while, but I'm no where near as slow as I come across, but thanks for the warning :)
The first time racers race in the same race as the Pros <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>!!!
I'll be half way around the course before you even get the green flag, so watch out!
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
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"You sure are fast, you where flyin' when I passed you"
It may have been a while, but I'm no where near as slow as I come across, but thanks for the warning :)
I'm not saying you're slow by any means. I'm just saying I'm really.........
Well never mind, my new helmet already hurts my head.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
I'll keep that in mind :)
It may have been a while, but I'm no where near as slow as I come across, but thanks for the warning :)
I'm not saying you're slow by any means. I'm just saying I'm really.........
Well never mind, my new helmet already hurts my head.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
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"You sure are fast, you where flyin' when I passed you"
I'm not saying you're slow by any means. I'm just saying I'm really.........
I sure hope everyone knows I'm just kiddin around.
I lose a whole lot more than I win.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
$H*T you say! :)
I'm sure you'll agree, the only time it's not joking around is when it's on the track and the game face is on.
Otherwise it's Beer and BBQ time, bring on the booze and the lyin' commence <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
I'm not saying you're slow by any means. I'm just saying I'm really.........
I sure hope everyone knows I'm just kiddin around.
I lose a whole lot more than I win.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
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"You sure are fast, you where flyin' when I passed you"
I once caught a fish that was ..........
P.S. Did I mention I may be back on a KX-500 for Snowflake.
Look out four legged furry animals, I may be blowing some turns.
I'm having a parachute installed on the back for pit stops.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
I used to run a 15/44 combo on the CR500 at Snowflake cuz it was so fast, my KX is faster and better equiped than the CR ever was but I think I'm run a slower gear combo. Just in case I start thinking I'm as good as I was <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
You know what I mean...
I once caught a fish that was ..........
P.S. Did I mention I may be back on a KX-500 for Snowflake.
Look out four legged furry animals, I may be blowing some turns.
I'm having a parachute installed on the back for pit stops.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
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"You sure are fast, you where flyin' when I passed you"
I used to run 15/42 on my 500 in Snowflake and Mexico. I run 15/44 on my YZF because it won't pull anything higher.
Run what you're comfortable with. Start out with 15/46. That is still some pretty fast top speed.
I use that gearing most of the time.
In the 900 class you may not need that much unless you want to prove a point.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
Not to prove a point, but I am running a 15/45. I think the bike is fast / quick enough that with that gearing in a "beginner" class - right, some of those guys are fast - I can run in the front and not have tax the engine. But then again... domination will get me outta the 900 fast <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
In the 900 class you may not need that much unless you want to prove a point.
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Not to prove a point, but I am running a 15/45.
very good choice.
But then again... domination will get me outta the 900 fast <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
EXACTLY!!
Just dont get ahead of yourself and go down.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
My feelings exactly. Though I think I learned alot from the CR and the way it was set up, and I've gotten older and had some time think about it, and man oh man I shoulda bought that damper before that race <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>.
This bike is setup much better than the CR, this one is correctly sprung, has a damper, the frame has actually been cut and the head angle changed from 27.5 to 30.0 degrees for stability at speed. This thing is awesome.
Not to downgrade how good the CR was, it just wasn't this good.
Just dont get ahead of yourself and go down.
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"You sure are fast, you where flyin' when I passed you"
Not to downgrade how good the CR was, it just wasn't this good.
go down.
In 1997, I ran 14/46 on my CR500 and won the 100 (expert) class.
See my signature below.
Of course it had rained for a week straight, so the playing field was a little different.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
Unless its a drag race on the fence line road... <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>
See my signature below.
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
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imported_n/a
06/19/02, 10:06 AM
A Pro rider came down from California not to long ago (Snowflake last year), and he had to fight not to ride the 900 class.
The 900 class by the way is the "first time racers" class. It usually has a very big turnout.
El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
That rider you are talking about is a personal friend and he is from Flagstaff, AZ. He not only raced the pro class, but he smoked them on a RM250 bone stock.
El Gato
06/19/02, 12:39 PM
That rider you are talking about is a personal friend and he is from Flagstaff, AZ. He not only raced the pro class, but he smoked them on a RM250 bone stock.
Robby Naughton WAS FLYING.
Raper had a hard time taking that second. He is not a graceful loser.
I started on the first row, and when Robby went by me the visibility was so bad from the dust that he went right on a left turn.
He almost hit a tree. When he recovered I never saw him agian. He passed Dayton on the last lap, and Raper was on a 650!
Matt Murphy did the same exact thing to him the year before.
Dayton's on the 5-honey this year, and he has assured me that he WILL WIN.
I may ride Daytons WORCS bike since my 400 is in pretty bad shape. Been a while since I've been on the BIG 500, but It's like riding a bicycle.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
Well, good luck either way
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imported_n/a
06/19/02, 12:48 PM
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I may ride Daytons WORCS bike since my 400 is in pretty bad shape.
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I didn't know Dayton was doing the WORCS races. I haven't seen him at any of them or seen him in the results.
El Gato
06/19/02, 12:49 PM
Well, good luck either way
Just let me know what your bullseye....uhhh I mean number will be before the race.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
I'll put it on my back for ya, otherwise you'll never see it <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> DOH!!
Well, good luck either way
Just let me know what your bullseye....uhhh I mean number will be before the race.
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El-Gato #57
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El Gato
06/19/02, 12:56 PM
I didn't know Dayton was doing the WORCS races. I haven't seen him at any of them or seen him in the results.
He was all geared up to do the series with Price Racing. He even had a new bike built just for the series, but Price ended up not resigning with Kawasaki for the 2002 series so he got left out on his tushy.
He did do the first race in Speedworld. He had the flu, and ended up not doing the Sunday Pro race.
He did the Open Expert Race on saturday and finished in the top 5 with the big boys.
I did the team race with him, and we got third or fourth. I can't remember which. He would definately done better with a faster teammate, but he didn't seem to mind.
We had a blast, but his wife had to carry him to the car and take him home. He was wiped from the bug.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
El Gato
06/19/02, 12:58 PM
I'll put it on my back for ya, otherwise you'll never see it <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> DOH!!
I'll try not to hurt you to bad when I go by.
Then maybe I'll hurt you extra bad.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
And I'll try not to fall in front of ya <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
I'll try not to hurt you to bad when I go by.
Then maybe I'll hurt you extra bad.
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imported_n/a
06/19/02, 1:08 PM
Best of luck to you guys.
Best of luck to you guys.
You're not racing???
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
Oh man, I had hoped for a BIG RA turn out. So is it just me, El-Gato, and jkcmotox?
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Hey No_Kaw_Honies,
You forgot to tell them about the free food, beer, and naked women at the finish line.
That'll get em there!!
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
SSSHHHHHH...
...forgot to tell them about the free food, beer, and naked women at the finish line...
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imported_n/a
06/19/02, 4:26 PM
Best of luck to you guys.
You're not racing???
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
Nope...Got a WORCS race at Gorman that weekend.
jkcmotox
06/19/02, 10:49 PM
That's right! just the three of us. The cool thing is that we will all be in the same race! So you can have TWO people you know lap you! Just kidding.
I am actually replying to you to offer you the use of my world class pit crew at SF '02. My Bro' (fastest dump can dude there is!) and my GF Tamara (the hottest chick that will ever change your goggles). They usually dump and bump me in around 8 seconds. 7 seconds if my Bro' doesn't have to set down his beer! Anyway let me know if you need anything. By the way, why wait for SF? Plenty of ops to get it on before that!
Jkc
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Oh man, I had hoped for a BIG RA turn out. So is it just me, El-Gato, and jkcmotox?
Jkc
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"If God would have meant for me to ride it, he would have given it tCENSOREDits or footpegs".
purefun660
06/19/02, 11:00 PM
I was woundering what exactly is a whiplash race? I have never heard of this, but I would love to start competing( or at least entering ) in races. Any and all info would be appreciated.
01 B/W raptor, CT racing pipe w K & N, rejeted, twist thrtl, and much more bolt ons
I was woundering what exactly is a whiplash race? I have never heard of this, but I would love to start competing( or at least entering ) in races. Any and all info would be appreciated.
Whiplash is the name of the orginization that holds the desert races in Arizona.
Right now desert racing in Arizona is at a stand still because of the fire restrictions.
The Snowflake race is the most popular, and funnest race of the year. It is held on the first weekend of September every year.
They have scheduled a race in Prescott on July-21/22, but it most likely won't happen.
The best way to start racing in Arizona is to grab a Southwest Offroad News magazine at your nearest bike shop, turn to the middle pages, fill out the regestration and send it in.
If you've never raced with us before they will enter you in the "900" class, which is the first time racers class. After the race they compare your times with ALL classes and determine what class you would fall into.
The "900" class is great because there is no pressure. You can ride as fast or as slow as you want. It's like an extra long trail ride where you don't have to stop and wait for your friends.
Check it out. It's a blast.
Send me a P.M. if you have any more questions.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
DOH!!<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>
That's right! just the three of us. The cool thing is that we will all be in the same race! So you can have TWO people you know lap you! Just kidding.
Sounds good, I'll bring the post race beers
I am actually replying to you to offer you the use of my world class pit crew at SF '02. My Bro' (fastest dump can dude there is!) and my GF Tamara (the hottest chick that will ever change your goggles). They usually dump and bump me in around 8 seconds. 7 seconds if my Bro' doesn't have to set down his beer!
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Sounds good, I'll bring the post race beers
Corona and lime sure taste good at the finish line.
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El-Gato #57
It's not the bike that makes the rider fast, it's the rider that makes the bike fast!
Yamaha or not, you aint half bad then :)
...Corona and lime sure taste good at the finish line...
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jkcmotox
06/20/02, 10:08 PM
Then what am I supposed to be putting in my Camelbak?
Jkc
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"If God would have meant for me to ride it, he would have given it tCENSOREDits or footpegs".
Then what am I supposed to be putting in my Camelbak?
Please only put water in there. The celebration beer is only for AFTER the race.
I always drink a ton of water right at the finish before anything else. You never know what can send you over the edge.
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jkcmotox
06/21/02, 12:05 PM
El Gato,
Of course dude!!! Whatcha' think I am man? You must have been thinkin' I had one of those contraptions with extra wheels and paddles and chrome and stuff! (j/k)
"Please only put water in there. "
PS: Corona? Both you guys realize that is what beer is supposed to look like when you are done with it, right? Negra Modela is for the descerning Offroad head. I will have to hook you guys down with one post race. Speaking of post race, we always stay Sunday night and have a big feista after the SF race. Beers, steaks, inflated stories about how many guys we lapped and how we rode the whole powerline section pinned in fifth. The more the merrier!
Jkc
#31
"If God would have meant for me to ride it, he would have given it tCENSOREDits or footpegs".
El Gato
06/21/02, 12:28 PM
I was at one of those post race celebrations last year With Ken Kozlick and freinds. Kinda hard to celebebrate all night when you've raced your bum off all day.
All I wanted to do was sleep. We usually stay at the Super-8 in Heber and hit the spa sunday night.
We have reservations there for this year, that is if it is still standing after this fire rages through Heber.
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Fistfull
06/23/02, 8:45 AM
I'll be there tearing up the old fart class.
Oh man, I had hoped for a BIG RA turn out. So is it just me, El-Gato, and jkcmotox?
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