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Anybody tried any of the new .17 rimfires? I won a Marlin at the Duck's Unlimited dinner in Prescott put a Burris 2X7 on it and took it to the range Saturday. Wow, what a tack driver. After zeroing it at 100 yds., it put 7 rds. in the size of a dime. That is about its limit though. It starts to really fall off after 100 yds. The cool thing is, that kind of performance at $4.59 for 50 rounds. BTW, this is the .17 Mach 2. It appears to be a CCI .22LR necked down to .17 cal. From what I've read it's in the 2100 fps range, but I will borrow my buddies chronograph and verify this next time.
Model 917M2S
All Marlin bolt action rimfire rifles feature the T-900™ Fire Control System
The stainless steel Model 917M2S also has the T-900 fire control system, and features a 7-shot clip magazine, and a rugged black/grey laminated hardwood Monte Carlo stock with swivel studs. It has a heavy 22" stainless steel barrel. The receiver is grooved for a tip-off scope mount, and drilled and tapped for Marlin scope blocks, which are supplied.
Caliber 17 Mach 2
Capacity 7-shot nickel-plated clip magazine
Action Bolt action; thumb safety; red cocking indicator; stainless steel barrel
Stock Monte Carlo black/grey laminated hardwood stock with pistol grip; nickel-plated swivel studs.
Barrel Heavy 22" (4 grooves)
Twist Rate 1:9" r.h.
Sights Receiver is grooved for scope mount; drilled and tapped for Marlin scope blocks (included).
Overall Length 41"
Weight 6 lbs.
Anyway, pretty cool little rifle and can't wait to hit Albogondias Ranch and do some prairie dog control. Should be a pretty good little squirrel rifle too.
duneflyer
02/17/06, 8:12 AM
That is accuracy. Thats the first I have heard of that rifle, in a rimfire. My father has a 17 remington centerfire, and is accurate like that, but of course, out to 3 or 4 hundred yards. Great varmit rifle
How about a pic - rifle and round??
Here is a link for the rifle, still looking for the round. Just imagine a really cute, miniature rendition of a .308 with a ballistic tip.
www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/boltaction/917M2S.aspx
quote:Originally posted by F_G
Here is a link for the rifle, still looking for the round. Just imagine a really cute, miniature rendition of a .308 with a ballistic tip.
www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/boltaction/917M2S.aspx
I think I found the round...
http://www.ridingarizona.com/forum/uploaded/nuge/2006217223618_17_M2.jpg
And here's this...
http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=145
Longhair
02/17/06, 4:52 PM
I have the Ruger Varmint Grey Laminate stock in .17HMR.
I have shot regular groups in the .30 size at 100 yards. I love this guy, the .17hmr will smack the little rocks (or squiriel) out at 250 yards. :D
I free floated the barrel and bedded the action and massaged the trigger to around 2.3 pounds......
Longhair
02/17/06, 4:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by F_G
It appears to be a CCI .22LR necked down to .17 cal.
Your right.. It is actually the CCI stinger case which is just a little longer.
The .17Hmr as you may know is a .22 mag necked to the .17.
I would like to get the Kimber Target 1911 in the .17mach 2...that looks like a blast!
quote:Originally posted by Longhair
I have the Ruger Varmint Grey Laminate stock in .17HMR.
I have shot regular groups in the .30 size at 100 yards. I love this guy, the .17hmr will smack the little rocks (or squiriel) out at 250 yards. :D
I free floated the barrel and bedded the action and massaged the trigger to around 2.3 pounds......
Yeah, I almost wish this rifle was the .17HMR, but like I said I won it at a DU dinner and beggars can't be choosey. Plus the .17HMR ammunition is twice as much, still not bad though at about $10 a fifty. I shot it again this weekend and it was a little windy, but didn't seem to affect it much at all, kind of surprising. I was looking at the performance differences and the .17HMR definitely gets the job done at greater ranges, but I'm happy with 100yd accuracy like this rifle has.
Your right that Kimber in 17 mach 2 does look like a blast.
quote:Originally posted by nuge
quote:Originally posted by F_G
Here is a link for the rifle, still looking for the round. Just imagine a really cute, miniature rendition of a .308 with a ballistic tip.
www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/boltaction/917M2S.aspx
I think I found the round...
http://www.ridingarizona.com/forum/uploaded/nuge/2006217223618_17_M2.jpg
And here's this...
http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=145
Wow, neat link. I've been shooting the CCI ammo. I think I will try a couple of boxes of the Hornady stuff this weekend and see how it does.
I converted an old 10/22 to .17 and I love it. It really seems to be accurate.
DaisyCutter
03/02/06, 7:07 AM
I have a Marlin .17HMR (not .17HM2) with a heavy barrel. The .17 HMR is a necked down .22 Mag IIRC. It's wickedly accurate, but the trigger pull is kinda crappy for a target/hunting rifle. There's some creep and the break is stiff. I'm still capable of making 1" groups at 100 yards (my only rifle that I can do this with), but I bet I could get 0.6" with a trigger job.
http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL639/2678265/5348258/107240458.jpg
http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL639/2678265/5658292/112613354.jpg
I nailed Mr. Bunny at 250+ yards at dusk... shooting from a mountainside down into a valley.
WildBill
03/02/06, 10:09 AM
Based on your picture it looks like you shot the bunny in the ass (hind leg)[B)]
FYI...Ass end does not contain vital organs [xx(]
I highly doubt Mr. Bunny was impressed by your 1 inch groups while dying a slow painful death.
quote:Originally posted by WildBill
Based on your picture it looks like you shot the bunny in the ass (hind leg)[B)]
FYI...Ass end does not contain vital organs [xx(]
I highly doubt Mr. Bunny was impressed by your 1 inch groups while dying a slow painful death.
From a mountainside down into a valley. I was assuming that was the exit wound as the round traveled from the right shoulder down to the left rear hind quarters. Which, I'm guessing would traverse some pretty vital areas. But then again, I'm no forensic expert.
DaisyCutter
03/02/06, 11:32 AM
quote:Originally posted by WildBill
Based on your picture it looks like you shot the bunny in the ass (hind leg)[B)]
FYI...Ass end does not contain vital organs [xx(]
I highly doubt Mr. Bunny was impressed by your 1 inch groups while dying a slow painful death.
I had to shoot him twice. The side pictured is the exit side of my first shot which hit him in the gut and pushed intestine out his ass(look closely). What you can't see, is that the whole other side of the head is missing from my follow-up shot. It's not an appropriate picture to post. That bunny measured about 8" front to back. If you look below the bunny, you can see the blood stain from his butt and one from his head.
One inch groups are possible from a bench...but in the field, shooting at dusk, downhill, without a bench... is a lot more difficult. FWIW, both hits would've fit within the testbook kill zone on a deer. That rabbit would've fit into my cowboy hat. In fact, I was so far up on the mountain, it was dark by the time I got to him. The only light in the picture is from my camera flash. Don't foget, at 200+ yards, that rabbit is pretty much the same size as the reticle cross-hairs on my scope.
DaisyCutter
03/02/06, 11:42 AM
Impressed with this group?
http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL639/2678265/5348258/131511699.jpg
I found it in my desk a few minutes ago and snapped a pic just now. I did that at 100 yards, Rio Salado Club, 3-9X/40 cheapo Bushnell Banner scope. That badge picture of me was taken 8 years ago, LOL.
Not to shabby. Like I said I had one 7 rd group that fit inside a dime. I was actually pretty impressed with the trigger on my Marlin, a bit of percieved creep, I didn't put a gauge on it, but I would be surprised if it is much over 3#. I did go a little extravagant on the optics for a rimfire(Burris 2x7), but since I got the gun for free(besides the $75 dinner ticket and $150 in raffle tickets) and after seeing what this rifle is capable of, I figured it was worth it.
Longhair
03/02/06, 2:47 PM
You might try even uping the power... I have a few Burris's nice scopes and VERY high quality. I changed from my Burris 3.5x10 Balistic plex for a little more power and the paralex adjustment.
Nikon 4.5x14 side paralex adjustment Mil-Dot
http://www.nikonusa.com/images/products/6469_360.jpg
http://www.burrisoptics.com/images/ballmildot.gif
Burris 3.5x10 Bal-Plex
http://www.burrisoptics.com/images/35x10xffii.gif
http://www.burrisoptics.com/images/ballplexreticle.gif
I have had extremely good luck with Burris scopes. I have 3 Burris rifle scopes and 2 Burris extended eye relief pistol scopes. They seem to very durable and can take rough handling. I also have 2 Leupold scopes that have served me well.
Although that Nikon looks sweet. Have you used it much?
WildBill
03/03/06, 12:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by DaisyCutter
quote:Originally posted by WildBill
Based on your picture it looks like you shot the bunny in the ass (hind leg)[B)]
FYI...Ass end does not contain vital organs [xx(]
I highly doubt Mr. Bunny was impressed by your 1 inch groups while dying a slow painful death.
I had to shoot him twice. The side pictured is the exit side of my first shot which hit him in the gut and pushed intestine out his ass(look closely). What you can't see, is that the whole other side of the head is missing from my follow-up shot. It's not an appropriate picture to post. That bunny measured about 8" front to back. If you look below the bunny, you can see the blood stain from his butt and one from his head.
One inch groups are possible from a bench...but in the field, shooting at dusk, downhill, without a bench... is a lot more difficult. FWIW, both hits would've fit within the testbook kill zone on a deer. That rabbit would've fit into my cowboy hat. In fact, I was so far up on the mountain, it was dark by the time I got to him. The only light in the picture is from my camera flash. Don't foget, at 200+ yards, that rabbit is pretty much the same size as the reticle cross-hairs on my scope.
All right, if you say it was a quick ending.
Longhair
03/03/06, 12:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by F_G
I have had extremely good luck with Burris scopes. I have 3 Burris rifle scopes and 2 Burris extended eye relief pistol scopes. They seem to very durable and can take rough handling. I also have 2 Leupold scopes that have served me well.
Although that Nikon looks sweet. Have you used it much?
Typically, I am also a Leupold or Burris man myself.
But while looking for something with the variable parallex I came across this jewell...I have been very happy with performance... I will have to post a couple pics of some 100 yard groups. I have popped small varmints at 250 yards (range finder) with ease!
As promised a chronograph report on the 17mach2. These are muzzle velocity only as I have a real bad habit of getting target fixation when expensive things are down range and I didn't want to have to buy my buddy a new set of sky screens. The CCI ammo out of 50 rounds, high was 2152fps, low was 2070fps. Not to bad, that kind of spread is to be expected out of factory ammo. Hornady ammo out of 50 rounds, high was 2215fps, low was 2190fps. That is exceptional quality control and a bit higher velocity than advertised. Chronograph used was an Oehler, model 43. The rifle is in getting some trigger work done now, it was a little over 3# with some creep, get rid of the creep and break at 3# even and it should be about perfect. The accuracy of this little rifle and round continues to amaze me.