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Ok Dune people, I am new to sand so is a Douglas .160 strong enough for the rar in the sand or do I need a .190?
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I have my paddles on my stock rims which I think are .160's. I don't think you will have any problems. Not a lot of big jumping at the dunes.
The way I figure it is the lighter rims, more spin, more traction, more fun.
I have a 525 IRS.
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I always ran .190's on my Raptor.
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.160's are great rims and you will have no troubles.
Many run the .125's for the lighter weight with no problems but they do bend if you are heavy or your quad is heavy and you pound it hard.
All the quads we have for sand duning are running the .160 Douglas wheels. They do not bend when prying on them changing tires either. Great rims. Light weight, super strong.
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the 125 160 190 only refers to the area where the lug holes are. the rest of the rims are the same.
stock rims with the rolled edge, beadlocks, or the reinforcement rings are the strongest.
regular 190 are not what id call bullet proof
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Originally Posted by 500AF
the 125 160 190 only refers to the area where the lug holes are. the rest of the rims are the same.
stock rims with the rolled edge, beadlocks, or the reinforcement rings are the strongest.
regular 190 are not what id call bullet proof
Good info, I did not know thats the only area the measurement was referring to
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Originally Posted by 500AF
the 125 160 190 only refers to the area where the lug holes are. the rest of the rims are the same.
stock rims with the rolled edge, beadlocks, or the reinforcement rings are the strongest.
regular 190 are not what id call bullet proof
Not the rims I have seen. I have seen .125 rims at the bead that were paper thin.
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i wish i had a couple to compare. my quad stuff is long gone these days. be worth lookin into though. (as its how i remember it being shown ib a diagram some place.) i can tell you that all rims are thicker in the bolt up than the bead. the main structural point of the wheel is the bolt up.
another bit i know for sure is that the wider the offset, the more likely to taco.
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You'l l want to consider the rim diameter as well as rider weight. I wouldn't run .125 rears (ie. douglas blue labels) with anything more than an 8" rear rim, esp with a heavier quad and rider. In general, my rule of thumb for rear dune tires would be to run at least a .160 thick alum rim (Douglas black label) with a 9 or 10" diameter paddle. Of course, I prefer 8" rear paddles - but many riders like lower profile wheels with the larger dia. rim.
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To add to Mr. 500AF - Here is an example: Douglas front wheel from the YFZ450
Black label wheel 0.160 thousandth. The center hub measures 0.335 thousandths for the .160 wheel.
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So based on all of the above, I'm thinking I can run Douglas .160 rears (will be running stock fronts to start) I dont see myself doing huge jumps or anything so they should hold up
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.160s will be fine for your riding style, now & in the future.
Been going to the dunes for 25+ years and only saw 1 rim flattened by a humongous jump with a poor landing. I have seen several name brand rims break inside by the lugs and even the center section break out.
It is important to examine your rims often for small cracks.
Also, make sure you use the proper lug nuts & washers to secure the rims so you don't 'wallow' out the holes.
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Originally Posted by EBT531
So based on all of the above, I'm thinking I can run Douglas .160 rears (will be running stock fronts to start) I dont see myself doing huge jumps or anything so they should hold up
That is what I would recommend as well.
Just so you know ----- When the dune bug bikes, oh - it will.... Hold on because the seas will part & a whole new experience will hit you with the rush of a thousand oceans. There is absolutely nothing on the planet like blasting a huge bowl and ripping down the face. Catching a little air over a dune, going straight down a face of a bowl 100+ ft high with a 15 degree angle…..
Gezzz, got myself all worked up.
On that note - once you are comfortable with riding the dunes - thinking you're all really good with it - go for the Razor blade fronts ! Unbelievable ~~~ You will carve the dunes like a fighter pilot blazing the skies!
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plenty of air will hurt traction and floatation some, but help protect rims.
haulers on the back, blades on the front. only way to go. imo
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